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Children and Grandchildren
13 July 2009 12:50
Scientific advances have broken the boundaries on giving birth in later life but surely there is a point at which you’re simply too old to be a mum?
Retired businesswoman Carol (not her real name) is 72, single and determined to find an egg donor. “I want a baby,” she says simply. “I’m very healthy and fit. I don’t drink or smoke. I’ve looked after myself and am in good shape. I’m also financially secure. Why isn’t it OK for me to have a baby? All right, I’m 72, but I don’t look it and I don’t feel it either.”
Lack of understandingCarol wants to remain anonymous because, in the past, when she has voiced what she wants to do the response has been negative – especially from women. “They just don’t understand what it’s like to not have a baby, particularly if they have children themselves.”
The question has to be why didn’t Carol, from the south-east, try for a baby years ago? “I was very busy,” she replies. “I was in business and helped set up a research institute. In my experience, if you had a career 30 or 40 years ago, you weren’t taken seriously as a career woman if you wanted children. The time wasn’t right for me then. “I started to think about having a baby in my early 50s and tried IVF using my own eggs. It didn’t work. Hearing about women having babies in their 60s has made me think, why not me?”
She said that the case of Elizabeth Adeney, a 66-year-old businesswoman from Suffolk, who gave birth in May, had given her hope. “Everything went well for her so it has made me feel the next step for me now is to look into it seriously for myself.”
Breaking boundariesBut even if Carol were to get pregnant immediately, by the time her child was 10, she would be 82! “People are living for longer and longer,” Carol argues. “Breakthroughs in medical science have seen to that. You might say I’m going against nature but everything in medical science goes against nature – even wearing spectacles. By having a baby, I’d be breaking boundaries and that’s what the success of scientific research is all about. “Men go on fathering children well into their 60s and 70s – sometimes even their 80s. Maybe that’s why men aren’t so critical of me.
“I get called selfish for wanting a child, told that the child will be teased and ridiculed for having an older mother. My reply is that it doesn’t really matter how old a child’s parent is, so long as he or she is loved. That’s the most important thing and my child would be deeply loved.”
Fertility treatment offers women new hopeThere’s no doubt that IVF is a medical miracle. Fertility treatment has given women the world over the opportunity to become mothers when unable to conceive a baby naturally. But in the past few years, the number of women in their 60s to become first-time mothers through IVF and donor eggs has been rising.
In 2005, 67-year-old Adriana Iliescu from Romania gave birth to a baby girl. A year later Camela Bousada, also 67, from Spain, gave birth to twin boys.
Fertility touristsElizabeth travelled to the Ukraine for IVF treatment, came back pregnant and is said to be overjoyed to be a mum. But her case has reignited the debate over post-menopausal motherhood, which is only made possible by modern scientific techniques. You may ask how many women in their right minds would wish to become a mother when, to be blunt, they’re officially classified as pensioners. Quite a few, it seems. More and more women in their 60s and even 70s, collectively known as ‘fertility tourists’, are contacting IVF clinics abroad in their quest for a baby.
And while nobody is disputing the devotion older women have for these much-wanted children, is it morally right for women past the official retirement age to become pregnant with a donor egg and sperm, and give birth to a baby? Absolutely not, according to Josephine Quintaville, founder of the campaign group Comment on Reproductive Ethics.
Unnatural to give birth beyond a certain age?“A woman of a grandmother’s age should not be having children,” she states. “I can see no justification in this. The parameter is the naturally occurring menopause. It’s an inevitability. I think the message should be spelled out loud and clear to women that they should accept this.”Other commentators such as Christina Odone, former editor of The Catholic Herald, agree. “We should look at this from the child’s wishes and needs, not just the mother’s,” she says. “It is unnatural to give birth beyond a certain age.”
Some in the medical profession have rather less black and white opinions. “It’s a biological fact that while life expectancy has almost doubled in the past century, reproductive expectancy is almost unchanged,” explains Dr Gillian Lockwood, vice-president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists ethics committee.
“In the 60s, the health risks do become much higher. Having said this, as long as a woman is fit and healthy and doesn’t have an underlying health problem such as diabetes or blood pressure, the risk may not be that great to the mother.
“It’s the psychological aspect of each case which is possibly the most difficult. You have to be careful that it hasn’t become too much of a fixation.”
Dr Allan Pacey, secretary of the British Fertility Society, believes that the limits to fertility treatment in the UK are set more or less correctly at around the age of 50. “It’s true that you can’t predict when a parent will die and some children will be orphaned in tragic circumstances, but I think the idea of setting out knowing that a child is quite likely not to have a parent by their 18th birthday is quite alarming.
“Most people feel uncomfortable about the idea of providing fertility treatment to women beyond the natural menopause. In some ways, setting a cut-off point of 50 is arbitrary, but when you consider the welfare of the child, the health of the mother and, indeed, the ‘yuk’ factor of society, I think this is a reasonable place to end up.” // What do you think? Is 72 too old to have a baby? Write or email us at the Yours address on page 49.
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NeilKirchoff says
RE: Would you have a baby at 72?
I don't understand why don't you try out one of those ovulation test kits? From my experience I know that a woman should not have babies after 50 years or that time period because of many risks. The best period in life for a woman to have children is between 28 and 30 years.
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10 August 2010 07:38
cassi-opi says
i had my first baby at 19 and my last at 36, i must admit that i was better equipped to care for and look after a baby better later in life, but now i have grandchildren who i adore and often look after i do find it quite a bit harder to do all of the things that i did when my children were young i have plenty of time and patience but and the end of the day i am glad i am the grandmother ,i can go home and put my feet up , Do these women realise how much work is entailed in bringing up a child ? They may see other s with children even perhaps looked after a relative's child but what about the washing ironing feeding sleepless nights etc etc etc children are not just a toy that looks nice they are very hard but rewarding work Even young mums find it difficult to manage without a bit of help from mum or a sister so how on earth could a woman of 72 manage Yes children do need love and they give a tremendous amount of love back but they would also feel a lot of pain when mum is no longer there to give love and be loved I am sorry that this lady didn't have children because of her career but that was a choice we all made and she now realizes that its to late SHE MADE THE CHOICE and i feel sorry for her but i think having a baby at 72 is selfish and very wrong i did make a post some time ago about this and i have just realized that but i have spent a while writing this so i shall submit it again as i still feel the same Take care and just enjoy your or someone elses grandchildren
i had my first baby at 19 and my last at 36, i must admit that i was better equipped to care for and look after a baby better later in life, but now i have grandchildren who i adore and often look after i do find it quite a bit harder to do all of the things that i did when my children were young i have plenty of time and patience but and the end of the day i am glad i am the grandmother ,i can go home and put my feet up ,
Do these women realise how much work is entailed in bringing up a child ? They may see other s with children even perhaps looked after a relative's child but what about the washing ironing feeding sleepless nights etc etc etc children are not just a toy that looks nice they are very hard but rewarding work
Even young mums find it difficult to manage without a bit of help from mum or a sister so how on earth could a woman of 72 manage Yes children do need love and they give a tremendous amount of love back but they would also feel a lot of pain when mum is no longer there to give love and be loved
I am sorry that this lady didn't have children because of her career but that was a choice we all made and she now realizes that its to late SHE MADE THE CHOICE and i feel sorry for her but i think having a baby at 72 is selfish and very wrong i did make a post some time ago about this and i have just realized that but i have spent a while writing this so i shall submit it again as i still feel the same
Take care and just enjoy your or someone elses grandchildren
29 January 2010 14:58
susansue says
i had a baby at 40 and found it very difficult. 72 definitely NOT
27 January 2010 19:34
i had my 4th baby at 36 and my first at 19 ,i had more Patience as i got older but the thought of having a baby at 75 seems quite bazaar no matter how healthy you feel the child's needs must come first and no matter how much a baby is wanted its not a toy it comes with a whole lot of needs so if a career came first then that was the sacrifice you made . It seems to me that these women are wealthy and bored so the thought is oh lets have a baby that will give us something to focus on I cant say i know for a fact but i wouldn't mind betting that a nanny will be employed to look after them like madonna's children come on ladies get real your not madonna and lets face it you have only got another 20 years left so if you love children so much go and do some charity work with the less fortunate children of this world and make a difference to there little lives it will bring you much sadness to see but much joy to know you have helped these dear children
i had my 4th baby at 36 and my first at 19 ,i had more Patience as i got older but the thought of having a baby at 75 seems quite bazaar no matter how healthy you feel the child's needs must come first and no matter how much a baby is wanted its not a toy it comes with a whole lot of needs so if a career came first then that was the sacrifice you made .
It seems to me that these women are wealthy and bored so the thought is oh lets have a baby that will give us something to focus on
I cant say i know for a fact but i wouldn't mind betting that a nanny will be employed to look after them like madonna's children
come on ladies get real your not madonna and lets face it you have only got another 20 years left so if you love children so much go and do some charity work with the less fortunate children of this world and make a difference to there little lives it will bring you much sadness to see but much joy to know you have helped these dear children
09 August 2009 20:16